Breeder block hutches

[cavy-cool-crazy]

These days, as agreed by thousands of cavy rescuers, enthusiasts and owners, the minimum space a single cavy shoud have is 7.5 square feet (www.cavycages.com). Those hutches offer less than 2 square feet of space, which is like shoving you in a cupboard no bigger than you for ten years.

Also, some of the information is incorrect. Found on the 'Profile' page:

"Young: Piglets" - the young of cavies are called pups.
"Diet: Omnivorous" - Cavies are strict herbivores, which means no animal products at all.

[Sawda]

Guys, please stop,for the sake of that owner.. keep your manors.. i know the owner knows about this and i don't think its very nice..
Please can you take in consideration that theese pics could of been done inbetween clean out and haying up.. it takes two seconds to take a picture

[Gracie]

Oh what rubbish. where did you get that information from?? If I had to do that for all my piggies I would need a blooming warehouse.

[guineapigqueen]

So quick to judge a book by its cover!!!! My single boars are very happy in them cages. I have never had any problems with them. They are cleaned out once a week and hay, readigrass and food is given to them everyday.
No hay is in the cages because I wanted people to see the hutches and the piggies themselves, they were just cleaned out.

[guineapigqueen]

Originally Posted by RubyPiggie2

I know her too. Used to go to Pimms Pages, now I'm hardley ever on there. They are pro-breeding, and although some of the membres are very nice, the majority thinks that small cages and mixes are OK for piggies.
I don't think that we should provide the site link (it's not Just PimmsPages.com) for privacy reasons, really. We shouldn't take an argument over there, either. If she knows what C&C cages are, I doubt she'll stop using the hutches. She had (I think) 17 pigs die from somewhere around October to January. Sad, really.
I don't really want to stereotype breeders either, but I think we're right. Most don't really care about the space or welfare of the pigs. We should jam them into closets for the rest of their lives.

thanks for pointing out that I have lost alot of my guineas. this was to gastroentrotis, not to small cages! Imagine what size shed I would need if I was to house them in cavycages?????
More like a house just for them!
For peoples information, I do let them out... see this photo.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/000_0759.jpg

[cavy-cool-crazy]

Originally Posted by Gracie

Oh what rubbish. where did you get that information from?? If I had to do that for all my piggies I would need a blooming warehouse

Have you read the rules on these forums? The whole site is about C&C cages! You don't need 7.5 sq. feet of space for every single pig, you add a tiny bit on for each extra pig you have. And you don't have to make everything single level.
Take my cage for example. It is 4 levels, and if my pigs weren't together, they would have enough space on each level to live happily with another pig, so in respect I actually have space for 8 pigs while taking up a tiny amount of space in my tiny bedroom!

Originally Posted by GPPerson

this was to gastroentrotis

How come 17 pigs had this then? I'm not meaning to be pushy, but I'm interestd as to how they got it, how it spread and what treatment they were given.

[Sawda]

Originally Posted by cavy-cool-crazy

These days, as agreed by thousands of cavy rescuers, enthusiasts and owners, the minimum space a single cavy shoud have is 7.5 square feet (www.cavycages.com). Those hutches offer less than 2 square feet of space, which is like shoving you in a cupboard no bigger than you for ten years.

Also, some of the information is incorrect. Found on the 'Profile' page:

"Young: Piglets" - the young of cavies are called pups.
"Diet: Omnivorous" - Cavies are strict herbivores, which means no animal products at all.

There are tons of differant names for young! i call them piglets and mini pigs! its not like a strict thing that it has to be all proffesional and all that.

[guineapigqueen]

That is a old website, if you want to give me some more abuse please visit this site
http://guineapigqueen.bravehost.com/
I am from the UK, people all over the world call Guinea Pigs by diffierent names like Cavies, so over here they young are mainly know as Piglets or Pups. I personally prefer Piglets.

[Sawda]

im ditching this thread before i have to anger myself more..
GPperson has not had a good week, it has been a year since she lost her dad and its not fair to stress her more than she is now

[guineapigqueen]

Originally Posted by cavy-cool-crazy

Have you read the rules on these forums? The whole site is about C&C cages! You don't need 7.5 sq. feet of space for every single pig, you add a tiny bit on for each extra pig you have. And you don't have to make everything single level.
Take my cage for example. It is 4 levels, and if my pigs weren't together, they would have enough space on each level to live happily with another pig, so in respect I actually have space for 8 pigs while taking up a tiny amount of space in my tiny bedroom!



How come 17 pigs had this then? I'm not meaning to be pushy, but I'm interestd as to how they got it, how it spread and what treatment they were given.

Well you seem to be the veterinarian you tell me.
Actually I lost 25 from September to May, but not all where down to Gastroentritis(having around 40, with various ages you tend to lose a few). I dont know where it came from but I took 2 guineas to have a Autopsy. that was the comfirmation from the vet. They were give a course of Anti-Biotics and given hay and wood shavings from a differnt supplier. I also changed the disinfectant to a stronger one which kills more germs. That seemed to do the trick.

[Gracie]

Hey dont jump down my throat. I have single boars and if i had to house them all in 7.5sq ft my shed would have to be huge.

I am well aware that you only have to add an small extra amount for 2 piggies living together.

I just think you are being unfair to judge this person who happens to be a friend of mine, when you dont know how she looks after her piggies and under what circumstances the photos were taken. As she has saidm she wanted people to be able to see the piggies and not the hay racks. I do the sma when I am taking photos, all my bottles and hay racks are removed for the short 2 to 3 minutes that I am taking the photo. People have asked the same question of where are the hay racks and bottles, I explain that they have been removed for the purpose of taking a clear photo of the piggie in the cage and they are quite happy with this. Maybe this is what you should have asked my friend, instead of all jumping on her and accusing her of not looking after her piggies properly.

With regards the the sickness that her piggies suffered this year, I know for a fact that this hit her really hard. It is a terrible thing to loose one piggie never mind a load of them. I also speak from experience there, after loosing 2 piggies in one month. Are you going to accuse me of cruelty as well???????

[Myspoiltpiggies]

Aaah I didn't mean to upset anyone in making this thread. I just was showing people what most breeders keep their guinea pigs in. This site is not for breeders so I didn't expect to see any on here. I used to have small cages for mine, but I promise you - they are much happier with the cages they have now. I have 16 and have found that I can give them quite a lot of space and I only have a tiny shed!

[Myspoiltpiggies]

Originally Posted by Gracie

I just think you are being unfair to judge this person who happens to be a friend of mine, when you dont know how she looks after her piggies and under what circumstances the photos were taken.

We only have to look at the size of the cages to judge how happy these guinea pigs must be.

[Gracie]

well if you didnt mean to upset her then you owe her an apology, because I know she is very upset.

[guineapigqueen]

I am Upset!
Well you are more than welcome to come and visit my guinea pigs any of you...
During the warmer months all the sows (33 to be precise) get let out in the garden and have FREE range of my garden. The boars have to be housed in smaller runs.
If the weather is cold they are let out in my shed for a few hours and I do manage to clean them, feed them, water them and cuddle them.

[ilovpiggiesthei]

i know this person to and she is very upset! she loves those pigs and the hutches are fine!! as you saw in that other photo they have alot of time to run about!!!!!
say sorry please

[hollypigs]

hi there i am new to cavy cages - on reading this post i have become quite upset. the lady in question you are talking about is a very good friend of mine and believe me friend or not if i think guinea pigs are being kept in unsuitable conditions i would say so - animal welfare always comes first to me. i would 1st like to say that a high number of her guineas did die an incredibly terrible time for her - believe me she went through hell - we sourced an excellent exotics vet one of the best in his field and he did everything he could do and now eventually thank god - no pigs have died for a good few months now (touch wood) the second thing is that i have been in emmas shed and to be honest the pigs are very well looked after - they have special areas on the grass and are out a lot in summer and u have my word they are all very much loved - any1 who disagrees and has a problem with this feel free to come up and visit and i assure u u will eat your words. thank you for reading this and please feel free to contact me - i would rather people being upfront, open and honest and discuss things as there are always room for improvement as none of us are perfect.

[Slap Maxwell]

I don't doubt for one second that this person is making more than one username to back herself up.

Read: http://cavyspirit.com/breeding.htm

And know you are not right. Pigs need space. And I really hope you realize the dangers of unsupervised outside time.

Please use proper capitalization and grammar, as well as spelling. Thank you.