Alaska Oil Drilling

[FurryCritters]

Originally Posted by holli'smommy

As a matter of fact, as I said in an earlier posting, I have LIVED on a military installation in Japan and have traveled extensivly throughout the world. I wear my American pride out where everyone can see it ( actually not really because I was travelling with the military and it would have made a terriorist target out of all of us) but I told people where I came from. I would die before I told anyone I was from Canada, I am not a traitor to my country. I will defend it till my dieing breathe. If nobody anywhere ever did anything, and took Canada's policies, nothing would ever get done. I respect your opinion but don't go burning the Red White and Blue, especially since you don't live under it. You just stand over that border and throw your rocks and see how far that gets you. I can't wait for the day we invade Canada!

You couldn't have said it better and actually said what I wanted to. It would probably only take us 48 hours to take them over - everyone would probably be hiding under their beds.

I haven't traveled outside this country and really don't have any desire to do so. But then why would I, we have everything I want right here. Why would I want to spend anymore of my hard earned money in other countries - they already get enough as it is?

[Sabriel]

If you look at the first thing I posted, it had nothing to do with Iraq or 9/11. It was about the fact that Bush broke a treaty between Canada and the US. I also complained the you guys would need passports to get into your own country. But the moment I brough up Bush all this war stuff got brought up. I don't like Bush's polices. Period. I'm sorry. I just don't like they way he thinks. I don't like it when it effects my country since I have no choice who you have for president.

I really don't hate the US. I don't mind Americans as people. But I do care when your President messes with my country. The drilling of oil in Alaska will not only kill your animals it will kill our animals. The ones that migrate to Alaska to feed. That's why the treaty was signed in the first place, we promised not to do anything to kill your wildlife and you promised to do the same. But you broke your promise and that's why I'm angry. Do what every you want to your own country. Cut down your trees, pollute your water, but don't kill off our enviroment. We worked hard to protect it.

But if you all want to put down Canada when I complain about Bush breaking a promise then by all means bring it on. I will defend my position.

[holli'smommy]

I just don't think that we should have to depend on other nations for our natural resources. I have studied these things and I understand the environmental inpact that it has. I don't think that he should break the treaty either but look at the big picture too and what it would mean to both countries before we play the blame game.

[Sabriel]

I can see if Bush said, "Hey, we're breaking the treaty, but we can share what we find." Or "we'll sell it to you at a good price." I mean we could have lots of oil in the Yukon too but since we made a deal we are honouring it. We just find other types of energy and other sources of oil that don't effect you (ie. Alberta) Canada really doesn't benifit from the US having more oil, unless it's shared or something.

Is it so bad to depend on other countries? Look at Iran. They don't need anybody else (or so they think) so they don't care what other people think. When we all have to share it makes us sit back and think. It gives us reason to consider other peoples' feeleings. ie. If The US didn't have maple trees (I don't think you guys have as many as we do) and you wanted maple syrup and nice maple planks the US would have to be nice to Canada or will just jack up the price. If we want oranges for a good price we have to be nice to you. You see what I mean. I think it's the world's way of saying play nice in the big world sand box or the other kids will stop sharing thier toys.

Besides, fosil fuels aren't the only source of energy. Canada is even investigating using sawdust for electricity. Why doesn't Bush put the time money and energy into natural gas? Or wind power? Don't destory both our countries for something that will just run out anyway.

[holli'smommy]

I actually agree with you on that. Except have you seen how prosporus Iran is, they all drive BMWs and Benzs. I just think that we do need to find a way to be independent from other countries. I just got back from the gas station, do you know what I paid? $2.49 per gallon. I couldn't believe it. $20 got me under half a tank. I drive a pick-up so I have a pretty big tank, but it's still ridiculous and I am tired of it. I may have to get credit just to get gas.

[Sabriel]

Ah, but oil is not the answer to everything. The less you depend on oil, the less you depend on them. A greener USA is an independent USA (as long as you still want our Maple Syrup. It's good to depend on some people for somethings )

[holli'smommy]

I couldn't live without Maple Syrup, the real stuff.

[Christys GPS]

Hey I wanted to join in and say, I love the REAL Maple syrup also. The rest of this stuff I can care less about. Well take care all and I think it is awesome that you can express yourselfs in this form, you get a better sense of who people are. I do enjoy reading diffrent veiws, and compare them to mine. Take care all.

[holli'smommy]

Thanks Christy, you're right it is great, we can carry on intelligent adult conversations in a neutral place.

[VoodooJoint]

Originally Posted by FurryCritters

ignorant foreigners....your pansy like country ...Your country has you so brainwashed ....You just better pray that your country never experiences what we did on 9/11, but if you do you can be sure there will be many a American dancing in the streets.

All of this is totally uncalled for.

It is incredibly rude to insult an entire country and to talk of dancing in the street when another country suffers a national tragedy. Are you talking about the same type of dancing we saw happen in parts of the middle east when the Twin Towers fell?

In my opinion an apology is in order.

[holli'smommy]

To tell you the truth I hadn't even read that. But yes it is true, it is a horrible thing to say. Thousands died that way and nobody should ever have to feel that kind of pain again, no matter what country they live in.

[VoodooJoint]

Just a few facts.

-Alaska does not contain anywhere near the oil it would take to help make us independant of foreign oil. They had already surveyed the area for oil back in the 80s. It does not contain enough to make the risk to the environment, and last American nomadic tribes, worth what little oil can be taken.

-any oil taken from Alaska will not come to America. It will go straight to Asia...the nearest port.

[citronsoul]

I thought the oil that the US received from the drilling in Alaska would last just 6 months? But that's just something I read years ago, I don't know if there's any truth in that.

I haven't traveled outside this country and really don't have any desire to do so. But then why would I, we have everything I want right here. Why would I want to spend anymore of my hard earned money in other countries - they already get enough as it is?

The fact that you don't even want to take the time to learn about other cultures doesn't really work in your favour. I personally can't understand your opinion. I love travelling & I love learning about different cultures. It makes your realise that there are cultures around the world that deserve our respect & interest.

[FurryCritters]

I don't believe I owe anyone an apology - I was just expressing my views and feelings. I wasn't looking to please anyone. There were foreigners in the US who were dancing in the streets the the Towers were hit.

You narrow minded hypocrites criticize to your hearts content about anyone who doesn't share your point of views.

I am so tired of reading posts from people who think they are so high and mighty. Voodoo you did to Poohbear what Slap had done to her last week, but I guess it was okay because it was coming from you. I have yet to see the title Moderator under your name. Maybe Poohbear needs some compassionate understanding - didn't someone on here that teens have moods swings, but I forgot that was only for Slap.

[VoodooJoint]

FurryCritters



Since your reply to me, and my reply to you, has nothing to do with Alaskan Oil Drilling please follow this link to the "Airing of Grievances" thread.

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[FurryCritters]

Originally Posted by voodoojoint

Just a few facts.

-Alaska does not contain anywhere near the oil it would take to help make us independant of foreign oil. They had already surveyed the area for oil back in the 80s. It does not contain enough to make the risk to the environment, and last American nomadic tribes, worth what little oil can be taken.

-any oil taken from Alaska will not come to America. It will go straight to Asia...the nearest port.

Talk about selective memory - you go back and reread you will notice I wasn't the one who mentioned invading Canada - I only elaborated one it:

"As a matter of fact, as I said in an earlier posting, I have LIVED on a military installation in Japan and have traveled extensivly throughout the world. I wear my American pride out where everyone can see it ( actually not really because I was travelling with the military and it would have made a terriorist target out of all of us) but I told people where I came from. I would die before I told anyone I was from Canada, I am not a traitor to my country. I will defend it till my dieing breathe. If nobody anywhere ever did anything, and took Canada's policies, nothing would ever get done. I respect your opinion but don't go burning the Red White and Blue, especially since you don't live under it. You just stand over that border and throw your rocks and see how far that gets you. I can't wait for the day we invade Canada!"

I'm not going to waste anymore of my time one you. I'm finished with this thread.

[VoodooJoint]

Originally Posted by FurryCritters

Talk about selective memory - you go back and reread you will notice I wasn't the one who mentioned invading Canada - I only elaborated one it:

It was your elaborating..and continued attacks that made me single you out. However you are correct. There were others. Anyone that insulted another nation is just as wrong and should also apologize.