Is declawing wrong??

[Rachy1412]

Of course it is bad! No matter how painless it is you would not like to live your entire life without finger and toe nails!

[Cavies4eva]

Well, I'm being literally pulled apart with this one. Your cat is going to be in pain either way so Just do what you have to do. In my book if cats weren't supposed to have claws then they wouldn't be born with them. Your decision, not ours!

[Louis]

Its hard to say this but if your cats recives pain because it has been declawed maybe it should be put to sleep, you know to put it out of its missery

[Cavies4eva]

I think that thing about people who have cancer too late not being allowed assisted suicide is a good thing every person in this world should go through the same pain as the animals that made their hair products, make up, clothes, house products etc. possible through their own death!

[stipma]

Originally Posted by Cavies4eva

I think that thing about people who have cancer too late not being allowed assisted suicide is a good thing every person in this world should go through the same pain as the animals that made their hair products, make up, clothes, house products etc. possible through their own death!

OMG!!! I'm sorry but cancer runs in my family (I lost my dad at the age of 50) I take total offence to that comment. I think that's one of the most hurtful things I've ever heard.

[weaseldropping]

I have always had cats, and they have always had claws, but it seems as though your cat would be much better off without theirs.

As far as the pain goes, that should not be an issue. I have had a baby by Caesarian section, and I honestly never felt a thing. It is just a matter of getting the correct pain relief and that should be well within the ability of any vet.

My cat recently had to have a serious eye operation and our vet made sure that he was kept lightly sedated for the first two days until the worst was over, then kept him on pain-killing injections untill two days after the stitches were removed. Before the op he was in obvious pain and distress, afterwards he was fine. He ate and drank normally once the sedative wore off, and was even hassling us to go out and beat up the other cats in the street like normal. Not the actions of a cat in pain.

If your cat isn't into getting into fights outside, and is not a big climber, I think de-clawing is the most sensible solution. The cat may need a lot more grooming, though, as mine seems to use his claws for that as well.

[weaseldropping]

Originally Posted by Cavies4eva

I think that thing about people who have cancer too late not being allowed assisted suicide is a good thing every person in this world should go through the same pain as the animals that made their hair products, make up, clothes, house products etc. possible through their own death!

I trust you have never in your life used any household cleaner, cosmetic, or drug of any kind. I would also hope that you never use veterinary medicine for your animals - vet drugs are also tested on animals.

I suspect you have never had to watch a loved one die from cancer.
These sorts of comments are very offensive.

[pennick]

Just to put my 2 cents in. I have had numerous cats in the past and everyone of them was declawed. All were adopted and were spayed and front paws declawed at the same time. There are no ill effects from this procedure. I'm sure that it may be painful in the beginning but all is forgotten within a few days. I am sure this persons cat who is having this nail problem is going through much pain constantly as it is. If the vet feels that the procedure is safe at this age then I personally do not see any problems.

[crittermom]

Originally Posted by Cavies4eva

I think that thing about people who have cancer too late not being allowed assisted suicide is a good thing every person in this world should go through the same pain as the animals that made their hair products, make up, clothes, house products etc. possible through their own death!

Thank you so much for adding to the pain of my recent loss. That was simply the most insensitive thing I've ever seen posted on a public forum. With the nonsense going on these past few days, and now this, I'm done here.

[stipma]

Originally Posted by crittermom

Thank you so much for adding to the pain of my recent loss. That was simply the most insensitive thing I've ever seen posted on a public forum. With the nonsense going on these past few days, and now this, I'm done here.

I may be right behind you crittermom. For someone to say that my father (and your loved one) deserved to suffer and feel much pain is the stupidest and most irresponsible thing I've ever heard on here. And YES!!! I do take that very personally. And by the way, for making such hateful comments, if I were a mod your a** would be banned. I have never taken anything on here personally until now.

[Rachy1412]

I agree that what Cavies4eva said was extremely harsh. I do not believe in an "eye for an eye" sort of thing. I do not believe that if someone kills someone that they then should get the death penalty. It makes us just as bad as them! And if we do not let people die peacefully just because they tested on animals then you are as bad as them!

[VoodooJoint]

Cancan and Critter

Please understand that the majority of people here probably feel that the comment Cavies4ever made was totally uncalled for and insensitiive. I found it appalling.

Yes things here get heated sometimes. That's what happens when people fail to see the logic behind providing proper care for their pets. Normally the debates don't get personal. If someone takes the facts of having their poor behavior/care pointed out to them personally...well there is nothing to be done for that.

Only recently has there been a real problem of personal attacks. I think most people, having witnessed how bad it can get, are a little more knowledgable about how to handle a disagreement.

Don't go because of one insensitive remark. There are several people here that will help back you up against stuff like this. Me included, and most of the people that have seen my posts probably don't want to get on my bad side.

Cavies4ever. Perhaps your meaning got lost in your post and you didn't mean it to sound the way it did. regardless I think you own Critter and Cancan an apology.

Louis. Your comment may also warrent an appology. You wouldn't scrap a car because it had a flat wheel would you? Why would she kill her cat because it has a possibly treatable (if controvertial) solution.

[fawnmarie]

I have never had any of my cats declawed, but it was never medically necessary, either. It sounds like your cat would be a lot happier if you had it done, even if it will hurt her for a little while until she's healed.

As for the rest - I've stopped listening to the reactionary crap on this boards months ago. Although all sentient creatures are valued and to be loved, some people think animals are "better" than people. As far as I'm concerned, charity starts at home and people are animals too.

Fawn

[stipma]

Voodoo, thanks for the understanding. I normally don't get involved in the crap that goes on but this time I guess I blew up. I don't know what else I can say. When you lose someone close to you, as I'm sure you have as well, you never get over it...but you do learn to deal with it. Sorry, now I'm rambling. I guess it doesn't help that I'm totally PMSing today

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by Cavies4eva

I think that thing about people who have cancer too late not being allowed assisted suicide is a good thing every person in this world should go through the same pain as the animals that made their hair products, make up, clothes, house products etc. possible through their own death!

OMG what is wrong with you? This is horrible to say to anyone. I lost my father in law do to cancer. And you have the nerve to come on a forum and say something this outraguse. I agree you should be banned. No one should ever wish pain and suffering on anyone. EVER.
Think twice before you take that pill for your headache or you put gas in your car,or you sit down on that wooden chair. Because animals have lost there lives so you can live comfortably.

[twilla97]

I have owned 1 declawed and 1 not declawed cat. I could not tell the difference in the way they acted, walked or anything else. Except that I never had ripped walls or furniture with one. I would never have it done to an older cat unless medically necessary but a kitten I would. To me it seems no different than circumsizing an newborn baby boy in the grander skeam of things. My declawed cat handled her self better than the other one. She learned to use her back feet very well to defend herself. She went up against a dog once and it was the one yelping and running and she never used her teeth.

[miskaffon]

I do not agree with declawing for scratching behavior. However, when the poor thing is getting caught all the time, and you've tried alternatives and they don't work, then I wouldn't hesitate.

I would rather see the kitty indoors at all times (mine has his claws and is still never let outside due to the hazards inherent with the "wild") and free from pain than having to be rescued from his claws constantly. You risk having him get caught while you aren't at home and bleeding seriously again.

Personally, I'd go ahead and have it done.

[kat_0521]