http://www.savetoby.com/ - Page 5

**Sparky** · #81 03-06-05, 12:28 am

"I've seen you expressing your interesting 'view points' in many threads, and some of them are contradictory statements, and others seem to ask for a fight. We're hounding you because it seems as though every word that comes out of your mouth is meant to cause trouble."

"So you agree that someone waisting money on some stupid moron's sick sense of humor is good? We're taking action because this person is swindling people out of money. For someone who is such a 'humans right' activist, you sure don't care much for them."

i italicized the parts i found arrogant

**DocDolittle** · #82 03-06-05, 10:57 am

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I've seen you expressing your interesting 'view points' in many threads

I'm sorry if this bothers you, but it's true. I think it's, shall we say different, that you would come onto an animal loving forum and talk about how you don't really care in the least for animals. I do think that they're odd opinions to post on a strongly vegetarian/vegan forum.

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For someone who is such a 'humans right' activist, you sure don't care much for them."

How does this make me sound like I have a superiority complex? Please, I'm sorry but arrogant isn't tje right word to use here. I personally don't find either of these comments 'superior' to others.

**Sparky** · #83 03-06-05, 11:11 pm

i'm talking about being patronizing, condescending, talking down to me.

**DaCourt** · #84 03-07-05, 11:01 am

OH my...I am so glad I don't read the boards on the weekends. Sparky, I am sorry you don't find my littel saying witty. I guess that just proved my point. Arrogant...that is the pot calling the kettle black. You are so blinded by your need to be right, that you can't or won't, hear waht everyone is saying. So, because if that, I am done. I will leave you to fight it out with everyone else. I wish them the strength to resist the urge to bash their computers in while trying to deal with your ARROGANCE!

**mncavylover** · #85 03-07-05, 04:20 pm

Hey Sparky, it's the same concept at least, so I'd say they're still relevant. How about illegal or fraud bank websites then? Is that better? They're trying to take your money, but if you have "common sense" you should avoid them. Sorry if it seems I'm offending you.

**Susan9608** · #86 03-07-05, 08:48 pm

Well, I'm certainly glad I brought this whole topic up.

Sparky - you may label the unfortunate individuals who contributed money to "Save Toby" stupid and malleable, but *I* call them giving, compassionate, and perhaps naive.

What good is it to be so intellectually superior if you are rude, mean, and disliked?

The people who contributed money should feel no shame for doing so, even though they fell for a hoax. The person who should be ashamed is the person extorting money from them by tugging at people's emotions. And perhaps you, too, should feel some shame for being so heartless, not only in thinking that "Save Toby" is kind of funny, but also in labeling kind, compassionate people as stupid and malleable.

**Himino** · #87 03-07-05, 09:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Susan9608

And perhaps you, too, should feel some shame for being so heartless, not only in thinking that "Save Toby" is kind of funny, but also in labeling kind, compassionate people as stupid and malleable.

And for supporting and not seeing the harm in a site like this. I'd rather call the person who made the site stupid and malleable than people who truly care for animals. I don't think anyone here is falling for this trick, but just because the guy isn't succeding doesn't make the intent or context right.

**Sparky** · #88 03-07-05, 10:14 pm

you may want to call the guy malleable, but that doesnt make it true. on the legality front, yes, it is illegal (thankyou mncavylover). but as i put it, these are people that have more compassion than sense

**Himino** · #89 03-07-05, 10:51 pm

But as I stated no one is falling for his scheme but even so that still doesn't make it right.

**ChadWPB** · #90 03-08-05, 08:36 am

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Originally Posted by Sparky

you may want to call the guy malleable, but that doesnt make it true. on the legality front, yes, it is illegal (thankyou mncavylover). but as i put it, these are people that have more compassion than sense

I mentioned the illegality way before mncavylover did, but for some reason, your arrogance will not alllow you to even comprehend what I have posted.

No one here is being rude, Sparky, but some here are getting impatient. You're supporting an animal crulety website on a pro-animal forum. Of course you're going to meet stern resistance.

Jaspers_girl is spot on in saying that NO ONE here is falling for his scheme. We're not "malleable" people (I hate that term), we're active people trying to get him shut down.

People are getting impatient because you're not seeing the situation for what it is, someone cheating people out of money, and something that others might copy and actually harm an animal.

**Rachy1412** · #91 03-08-05, 12:03 pm

What I don't get is why someone would come onto a board that is very anti-animal cruelty, anti-breeding, pro-vegetarians etc. and come on to say that you totally disagree with them all! What response did you think you were going to get?
First you say that dissection is ok. Then you say that it is ok to murder a defenceless animal. AND to add to that your saying that this site is actually funny.. It really makes no sense.

It's like someone coming onto to here and saying: "I have a farm of guinea pigs, I breed them every 3months and eat the babies. I also use the guinea pig's as hunting practice and if we get too many we sell them to the local petshop who keeps them in different sexed groups." Would you still expect people to just answer their questions and be nice to them?

You need to get real, you cannot come onto a board like this and voice your opinions as if they were right. Especially since they are totally agaisn't everything this board is about. You cannot complain that they are just picking on you and being rude to you because you know that your opinions are not right here!

**mncavylover** · #92 03-08-05, 04:28 pm

Ok--basically, people want you to cut the whiny "Stop yelling at me! I'm innocent you bunch of attacking buzzards!" attitude and get through to the facts and the point of your argument, and not repeating malleable every two sentences. (Sorry for the bluntness but I don't think I need to sugarcoat my words for this one).

Have an awesome week!

**Susan9608** · #93 03-08-05, 05:43 pm

I agree with you MNCavyLover. Sparky - I think you're eating up all the attention you're getting, which is why I think you post the types of things you post. I think "attention-whoring" is very pathetic, and I feel very sorry for you for needing the gratification that you get from it. However, I no longer intend to play into it. If you have something worthwhile to say and debate, I'm all for that, but I'm not going to continue to argue the same points over and over and over again, just to give you the attention you so obviously crave.

**Sparky** · #94 03-08-05, 08:16 pm

i never called anyone on this board malleable, let's just drop the subject, i dont really want to talk about it anymore, and just so you know, i dont appreciate all "attention"

**CavySpirit** · #95 03-08-05, 11:01 pm

Sparky, just so you know, you may be demoted to a Cavy Person from a Cavy Slave. And not for this thread alone but the totality of your posts. I'm giving it consideration.

**ChadWPB** · #96 03-09-05, 10:00 am

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Originally Posted by Sparky

i never called anyone on this board malleable, let's just drop the subject, i dont really want to talk about it anymore, and just so you know, i dont appreciate all "attention"

Oh really? Let me point to the facts:

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Originally Posted by Sparky

perhaps animal lovers should stop being so malleable.

We are animal lovers on this board. Therefore, you called us "malleable".

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Originally Posted by Sparky

i'm supporting his "sick" humor. it's not being cruel to the bunny, it's being cruel to animal rights activist. just read the wording. "hes a cute bunny, but unfortunately he will DIE" he's mocking, and taking advantage of malleable human rights activists who have more "compassion" than sense.

you're all just making fools of yourselves

Now you just said we're making fools of ourselves, besides calling us "malleable". Who's being arrogant now?

Will you quit lying and backpedaling? I hope CavySpirit does demote you, as you cannot form a simple, believable argument. Your attention is deserved, as your posting is an affront to the community.

**Sparky** · #97 03-09-05, 08:44 pm

i said malleable human rights activists, meaning the animal rights activists who happen to be malleable, who have more compassion than sense. and when i said you are making fools of yourselves, it meant to say that you are playing into his hands by getting pissed off about it.

and before you say it "we're not playing into his hands, we're doing something" have you shut down the cafepress store. has his paypal account been shut down. i'm not saying it's futile, but you are rousing up attention for the site, thereby playing into his hands

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