Iditarod coverage on Discovery Channel being advertised on Animal Planet...and other

[sophistacavy]

Wow, I didn't know that they were actually taken such good care of, I thought I would like to believe that, but it's so good to hear it from someone like cavyinhawaii who actually lives where it goes on. It makes perfect sense that thats the only part that the media would show. The media typically want to blow everything out of proportion, unless its some small-town news channel like Wlos news 13 near me. The small, never-much heard of ones might as well not bother competing with the well-known, big names, so they have no use with making everything seem different than it really is. I don't like how they do that, but if they didn't, they wouldn't have a business.

I'm going to become an exotic animal vet, and I don't think that vets can save every weak or sick, or otherwise unfit animal out there. Vets are really expensive, especially if they have to drive out to a farm themselves, and if an animal is that far gone then its not worth risking finances and the entire rest of the group's health just for a few animals' sake. Yes, the vet could help, but I think that most of the farmers and people who practice culling have so many animals that helping a few get better if they're very sick isn't practical. Farmers don't really make much in the way of profits, or so I've heard. I guess they're in it because they got started, and became hooked on farming because thats what they enjoy doing.

And the more animals that are there, the faster that the food supply goes away, so the more money the farmer has to spend more often on replenishing that food supply. And in nature, I guess animals just move on to another food source once they clean out one place, and ones that are too weak to make the jouney to find a new food source just don't make it. That makes alot of sense, and it doesn't even really matter since cavyinhawaii just told us that they don't kill any of the sled dogs for the Iditarod.

And Thief is right too, in your first post where you said its probably harder on the musher. Yup, us wee naked bare skined humans don't have anything like the fur coats dogs have.
Hey, there's a siberian husky/shepard mix at Pet Harmony where I volunteer, his name is Max. I live in N.C. though, is there a way I could see if he would make a good sled dog or not? He definetely needs a job, like Cesar suggests. Max is a very strong walker on the leash, I can barely walk him sometimes L0L, he would probably enjoy pulling a sled. He likes pulling, alot. xD Are there local sled dog organizations or clubs in most towns, cause he doesn't even have a foster owner that we'd have to convince to let him go do this, I'd just have to talk to the head honchos there.

Thanks for setting me straight everyone!

P.S: Cesar Milan and Victoria Stillwell are both equal in my book, you can't really compare the two.. and they both more than likely have the same qualifications/education. And it would be hard to be a CPDT (certified professional dog trainer) without having a good strong background in canine psychology, so both Cesar and Victoria more likely than not do have experience with that stuff.....dog training is based on canine psychology. And, as I'm deducing from my [human] Psychology class, it also is based off of human psychology principles, laws, and rules, but is adapted to work with a dog's brain, and given slightly different names.

I think there should be mock-sled dog teams that do little funny recreational/pleasure races, like one starring my dog, Lexie, who's a shih-tzu. Like a run around some park. That would be so adorable...all in good fun and zero seriousness, of course.

[AnimalHouse36]

I don't think the media blew anything out of proportion (never thought I'd say that..). The fact of the matter is that there are owners out there forgetting their dogs and making them run until they can run no more.

If it's true they are killing incorrect puppies (all the while breeding) thats just one more act of injustiice to check off the list. As I said before, I don't see anything wrong with small scale sledding.

P.S., I don't want to get off subject but no, Milan and Stillwell are not comparable. Stillwell beleives in posotive reinforcement and a specific training plan for every dog. Millan thinks that he uses posotive reinforcement but really only uses it in rare cases. I'll provide a link to my thread where this subject was touched upon. I ,too thought that Ceaser was a great trainer until I realized in my thread. Here: http://www.guineapigcages.com/forum/...-dumb-dog.html

[bizziesdad]

the iditerod ROCKS. man and beast vs nature. thats good stuff.

[AnimalHouse36]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

the iditerod ROCKS. man and beast vs nature. thats good stuff.

Not when the animals life is at stake it's not. I think you should read some of my posts about it.

[salana]

bizziesdad, do you see this forum as merely a place to stir up trouble? Honestly.

[bizziesdad]

Uh oh. I disagreed with the salena almighty. I am gonna get peed on or wizzed again. Look out!

[AnimalHouse36]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

Uh oh. I disagreed with the salena almighty. I am gonna get peed on or wizzed again. Look out!

No. You made this entire forum angered. That will get you impacted. You go on obviously heated threads, and say something just to get a rise out of people. What is your problem?

[Ly&Pigs]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

Uh oh. I disagreed with the salena almighty. I am gonna get peed on or wizzed again. Look out!

Your comments are very inappropriate. They need to stop or I will cage you. I've had enough of your insults towards this site, it's mods and members.

[salana]

No, seriously bizziesdad, do you derive anything of value from this site or do you just like to show up and say stupid things? Because I'm really not sure what you're doing here.

[bizziesdad]

Originally Posted by salana

No, seriously bizziesdad, do you derive anything of value from this site or do you just like to show up and say stupid things? Because I'm really not sure what you're doing here.

Actually I like the race. My daughter and I watched it last year then she did a report on it. We actually have some extended family who have been really into dog sledding. Raising, racing and all that and live in Alaska.

I suppose I should apologize for having a differing opinion on the race but the reality is I like my opinion and am not sorry I have one.

But again you attack me and indicate the things I say are stupid pretty much because I dont goose step into line with you and I will be the one that gets flamed by the group and hammered by the mods. Such is life I suppose.

And yes I get lots from this site. Totally re-did my pigs diets that was totally wrong from the get go, built them one of the cages you guys all talk about and have put my daughter on a play schedule with them so they dont just sit there eat and poop with no contact. I feel their lives have been made much better from some of the things I have learned here. Thanks for asking.

I come to the "kitchen" because I can stand the heat. Unfortunate you can't without attacking me.

[Paula]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

But again you attack me and indicate the things I say are stupid ...

She implies the things you say are useless and serve no purpose in the thread.

Generally speaking.

[katiewilson]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

Uh oh. I disagreed with the salena almighty. I am gonna get peed on or wizzed again. Look out!

No one particularly cares THAT you disagree...just HOW you disagree.

In fact, has a mod ever once complained or impacted you for your opinions and beliefs? I've only observed their disapproval of your nasty and pugnacious ways, not so much your opinions themselves.

[sophistacavy]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

Actually I like the race. My daughter and I watched it last year then she did a report on it. We actually have some extended family who have been really into dog sledding. Raising, racing and all that and live in Alaska.

I suppose I should apologize for having a differing opinion on the race but the reality is I like my opinion and am not sorry I have one.

But again you attack me and indicate the things I say are stupid pretty much because I dont goose step into line with you and I will be the one that gets flamed by the group and hammered by the mods. Such is life I suppose.

And yes I get lots from this site. Totally re-did my pigs diets that was totally wrong from the get go, built them one of the cages you guys all talk about and have put my daughter on a play schedule with them so they dont just sit there eat and poop with no contact. I feel their lives have been made much better from some of the things I have learned here. Thanks for asking.

I come to the "kitchen" because I can stand the heat. Unfortunate you can't without attacking me.

I feel sorry for your daughter, that she has to have an immature dad. She might be more mature than you. Would your daughter pick fights like this? Also, does she know about this thread? You should let her read it, and the other one where you insulted salana.

You musn't forget that even though it is very easy to insult someone online, because you can't see them and likely never will, and because they are otherwise non-existant to you, and may just seem like something that exists only online, but au contrare!: Please remember that behind each username on this forum, there are real, live human beings. Its easy to belittle someone online because its impossible for you to tell how they reacted when they read it, or how it will affect their lives, because you never see them.....but we are all human here.

Again, maybe you should let your daughter read what you've been up to, and after she reads this thread and others you've posted on, maybe she will inspire you to adopt a better attitude.

[Paula]

Originally Posted by sophistacavy

I feel sorry for your daughter, that she has to have an immature dad.

You know, I'm all for "correcting" bizziesdad when it's called for but I don't think there's any place for attacking him as a father for his words here.

As you said, we are all people with lives outside this forum.

Originally Posted by sophistacavy

Please remember that behind each username on this forum, there are real, live human beings. Its easy to belittle someone online because its impossible for you to tell how they reacted when they read it, or how it will affect their lives, because you never see them.....but we are all human here.

No matter how obnoxious he might be here, this applies to him too, and making presumptions about his relationship with his daughter is exactly the thing you accuse him of doing.

[bizziesdad]

Originally Posted by sophistacavy

I feel sorry for your daughter, that she has to have an immature dad. She might be more mature than you. Would your daughter pick fights like this? Also, does she know about this thread? You should let her read it, and the other one where you insulted salana.

You musn't forget that even though it is very easy to insult someone online, because you can't see them and likely never will, and because they are otherwise non-existant to you, and may just seem like something that exists only online, but au contrare!: Please remember that behind each username on this forum, there are real, live human beings. Its easy to belittle someone online because its impossible for you to tell how they reacted when they read it, or how it will affect their lives, because you never see them.....but we are all human here.

Again, maybe you should let your daughter read what you've been up to, and after she reads this thread and others you've posted on, maybe she will inspire you to adopt a better attitude.

And you have just proven my point. As long as I agree with you I am okay. The moment I don't I am personally attacked and esentially told I must be a bad father. Then you want to act all holier than the rest and talk about us all being human here.

Go back and look little miss self rightous, I have NEVER attacked an individual with the mean hateful words you have just written to me. I have NEVER used someone's family or questioned their ability to parent. NEVER!!!!!

Gosh you are just a shining example.

Courious, did you get impacted, wizzed or banned for a period of time? Didn't think so.

[AnimalHouse36]

Originally Posted by bizziesdad

Gosh you are just a shining example.

Courious, did you get impacted, wizzed or banned for a period of time? Didn't think so.

No she didn't. Not yet any how.

And you have just proven my point. As long as I agree with you I am okay. The moment I don't I am personally attacked and esentially told I must be a bad father. Then you want to act all holier than the rest and talk about us all being human here.

Gosh you are just a shining example.

Did paula not just defend you? Did you even think to thank her? Paula is a shining example of what this forum stands for. Educating, while remembering everyone is human. She defended your honor after she tried to correct educate you and you came back with harsh words to a respected mod. And yet she still managed to help you one way or another.

Don't use one member as an example of our forum.

You may not have insulted people's parenting skill but you still disrespected our beleifs as a community. You came here, where animals safety was being defended, and said something just to get a rise out of things. We have no problem with differing opinions but in the manner of where and which you state these opinions they deserve to be addressed and complained about.

You go to the pit bull banning thread where obviously you have no facts to support your opinions and yet you still post there just to get people mad. Walk in our shoes for a bit. Being insulted on your parenting skills is a bit like how you insult us on our beleifs.

sophistacavy: I agree with everyone else that that post was out of line and just fueled bizzies rage.

[sophistacavy]

I didn't realize that it came across that way, I apologize. I guess I'll stay off of here at 12am...maybe thats too late to be on the internet, sorry.

AnimalHouse--He wasn't talking about Paula, he was talking about me. He quoted me, not her. So, he wasn't insulting a mod, just a cavy slave.

[katiewilson]

Originally Posted by sophistacavy

He wasn't talking about Paula, he was talking about me. He quoted me, not her. So, he wasn't insulting a mod, just a cavy slave.

To be fair, he did both (the mod being Salana).

But hey, we're all adults. Perhaps we can all stick to productive debating and avoid all personal comments? No hurt feelings.

[bizziesdad]

[quote=AnimalHouse36;403621]
Did paula not just defend you? Did you even think to thank her? Paula is a shining example of what this forum stands for. Educating, while remembering everyone is human. She defended your honor after she tried to correct educate you and you came back with harsh words to a respected mod. And yet she still managed to help you one way or another.

Don't use one member as an example of our forum.

You may not have insulted people's parenting skill but you still disrespected our beleifs as a community. You came here, where animals safety was being defended, and said something just to get a rise out of things. We have no problem with differing opinions but in the manner of where and which you state these opinions they deserve to be addressed and complained about.

You go to the pit bull banning thread where obviously you have no facts to support your opinions and yet you still post there just to get people mad. Walk in our shoes for a bit. Being insulted on your parenting skills is a bit like how you insult us on our beleifs.
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Thank you Paula. I missed and that and I should not have.

There are plenty of facts there that support my opinion. Some of the reports that the people here posted supported my opinion and I even listed a much respected author that supported my opinion. So not so sure where you think I am just spewing non-sense without substantiation because I think I have.

Now while I certainly came on a bit strong and maybe I should not have I still dont understand how it allows all these people here to bully me and act like I am not entitled to my opinion. Opinions are not something based on facts. They are based on belief. What the people here have said is "dont talk to me unless you agree with me".

That I really find unfortunate.

[BrainDeadBuster]

"Yes, huskies and such were bred for the eskimo's as a form of travel. Not for a life threatening high. Some poeple still need these dogs to get around. But majority do not. Especialy for like 200 miles (or however long). Just like with horses. Rarely do people use them for travel from one place to another. How can a dog be well cared for when they are being left because their owner is delusional?Don't listen to Ceaser Milan. He doesn't even have a degree in animal phycology. For animal advice look at Victoria Stillwell It's Me or The Dog".

I think Cesar Milan is brilliant, and really doesn't need a freakin degree in Psychology. I have watched both shows, and I think that Victoria is a little on the loopy side. Yes, dogs do need something to do, these dogs were bred to do this. Also, most of these dogs are crosses and not pure.