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**Amsley246** · #61 01-13-09, 01:43 pm

My Edward (was Daisy) is a lethal. He has no pigment whatsoever, bad teeth, blind and we think almost deaf. Thank you very much Salana if I haven't thanked you yet on all the help by the way!

**IluvePiggies** · #62 02-26-09, 03:13 pm

So what if let's say I adopted a female from a shelter that wasn't for SURE if the female was pregnant and 60 days later, she gives birth to 4 Baby Guinea Pigs. If you put them back in the shelter, they might not get adopted. I'm not saying that people should breed, I'm saying that if you get an acidential pregnant female that you got from a pet store or a shelter that wasn't for sure then make sure you make the right desicion: Keep or give away?
In my opinion, I'd keep them until they are at least 6 months old. I'd either try to find homes on Craigslist and make a house look-over(See to make sure the Guinea Pig is going to a good home) or give them to my local humane society.
Now that's my opinion and really, I'd get very attached to the babies. Of course, I'd never breed. Now, if there was a pregnant Female Guinea Pig that needed a home immediatly then yes, I would take it because then, techincally, I wasn't breeding. That's just my opninion though. Please do not hold that against me.

And I agree what basically everybody else has said.

**Paula** · #63 02-26-09, 08:03 pm

IluvePiggies - I'm sorry, but what is your point? The situation you are speaking of is entirely different than getting guinea pigs and breeding them, justifying it by "keeping the babies."

If you get a guinea pig from a shelter (or pet store if you don't know better at the time) who is pregnant and decide to keep the babies, good for you. It wouldn't have been an intentional act you engaged in while contributing to an overpopulation problem. It's more pigs you took in and gave a home to because of a problem someone else created.

**pigsmakemesmile** · #64 02-28-09, 05:52 am

Well, I mine as well add my two cents...I don't condone breeding, I don't justify it either and there's no excuse in the world to allow it.
With the great population of guinea pigs out there needing homes, it's a sin to even consider the notion of breeding. I think it's a selfish act on a pig owner to breed their pigs. A responsible, knowledgable pig owner would do otherwise.

**IluvePiggies** · #65 02-28-09, 02:33 pm

May I ask something?
If no one breeded Dogs, there would be no Dogs left in the world, am I correct?
Yet, just because someone is breeding Dogs does not make them a bad person, right?

**Ly&Pigs** · #66 02-28-09, 02:42 pm

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If no one breeded Dogs, there would be no Dogs left in the world, am I correct?

You are not correct. There will always be accidental pregnancies. This argument has been argued around here for as long as I've been a mod and the answer has always been the same. It goes for dogs, cats, guinea pigs, rats, mice, and every other pet.

**Simonmaal** · #67 02-28-09, 03:14 pm

Sometimes I really do wonder about the moral fiber of people who come on here. You know this is an anti-breeding site. You know there are terrible risks in breeding guinea pigs.

I call either windup (in other words a troll) or a breeder on a mission to ease his/her conscience.

I am extremely irritated and disappointed with your puerile and selfish attitude.

This person is highly suspicious in my opinion

**IluvePiggies** · #68 02-28-09, 03:18 pm

You know I'm just speaking my opinion right? And I've seen the animal cop shows and I know not to breed.

**Paula** · #69 02-28-09, 04:35 pm

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Originally Posted by IluvePiggies

You know I'm just speaking my opinion right? And I've seen the animal cop shows and I know not to breed.

Are the animal cop shows the only guiding moral compass that keeps you from breeding? Somehow I don't think so, and believe Simonmaal has a very good point.

If everyone stopped breeding dogs (or other animals) there would still be dogs. This has been asked and debated over and over again on this forum.

To answer your question, yes, in my opinion, breeding dogs (or other animals) makes you a bad person, because it means you are ignoring the fact that your actions contribute directly to the euthanasia of animals in shelters that might get homes if the "buyers" you solicit went there instead of choosing to buy from a breeder.

**Peggysu** · #70 02-28-09, 05:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Simonmaal

Sometimes I really do wonder about the moral fiber of people who come on here. You know this is an anti-breeding site. You know there are terrible risks in breeding guinea pigs.

I call either windup (in other words a troll) or a breeder on a mission to ease his/her conscience.

I am extremely irritated and disappointed with your puerile and selfish attitude.

This person is highly suspicious in my opinion

I agree.

**s.edwards** · #71 03-28-09, 10:31 am

I guess you could say that breeding is instinct. But in that line of thinking sons breeding with their mother is instinct as well. The animals do not have the cognitive ability to understand the impact of breeding. A guinea pig does not know what the complications are. She does not know that if she hasn't had a litter by 8 months her pelvis fuses and makes it extremely dangerous for her to get pregnant. She doesn't know that there is a high chance for complications and death to her and her litter. She doesn't understand that the male in the cage is her 4 week old son and she should not breed with him. That is what the human caregivers are for! To care for her and make sure she is safe. To take charge of the things she doesn't understand and protect her.

**new piggie** · #72 05-13-09, 07:04 pm

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Originally Posted by ArtisticRainey

Well, there's time to chance. At least it explains a few things, anyway. I need a drink...

Reading this post just pissed me off (sorry for the word, I had to use it because the ones I wanted to use would have probably got me banned). I really think her whole conversation was to get attention. So with that being said, ArtisticRainey, I had two drinks one for me and one for you.

**Amsley246** · #73 05-13-09, 10:48 pm

As someone who has 8 piggies and raised 2 litters (one was an accidental while the other was all adopted), the more piggies you have, the bigger the handful. I also have a 3 year old son, and I must say, the piggies put up big competetion mischief wise. They eat a lot of food, need a lot of attention and have bigger messes to clean up. Not to mention, they use a lot of money. When I Pixie was pregnant, you could tell she wasnt very happy and every day I was terrifed I might lose her. I felt like the biggest let down in the world because I didnt properly sex my other one (Arlo). I also ended up with a lethal white, who on his own needs my all. He's blind, deaf and has teeth problems, and who knows what else we're not seeing. So I guess my question is, on top of financial, health and your ability to be there for them, can you live with the guilt? Because I'm sure when you have to look at your pregnant sow waddling uncomfortably or your little lethal who cannot gaze upon the world, you will feel guilt. And if your sow happens to die from pregnancy complications or if your possible lethal dies from internal problems, you will feel guilt. Humans feel emotions and Guinea pigs feel them too.

That's my standpoint, it's not directed to anyone, just however feels like they can breed and think they can handle babies and the responibility.

**new piggie** · #74 05-13-09, 11:08 pm

krittercrazy, I noticed that you disagreed with my post. What exactly do you disagree with? I really didn't say much of anything but my feelings. That the original post pissed me off? Or that I think that she was saying that she wanted to breed for attention? Every word was a contridiction. I think the person was trolling for attention ( I am sure she knows after the first 2 or 3 post that this website does not condone in anyway breeding yet she asked a question about breeding, yeah right get a grip, trolling for attention). Disagree as you please but nothing that you feel will change my mind. I am just curious on what you disagree with.

**katiewilson** · #75 05-14-09, 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by new piggie

Reading this post just pissed me off (sorry for the word, I had to use it because the ones I wanted to use would have probably got me banned). I really think her whole conversation was to get attention. So with that being said, ArtisticRainey, I had two drinks one for me and one for you.

New piggie, did you by chance mean this thread has pissed you off? It comes across as though you were referring to ArtisticRainey's post, which may explain why some disagreed with your post.

**new piggie** · #76 05-14-09, 12:18 pm

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Originally Posted by katiewilson

New piggie, did you by chance mean this thread has pissed you off? It comes across as though you were referring to ArtisticRainey's post, which may explain why some disagreed with your post.

No, I am pissed that someone would say they want to breed, although they have been repeatedly told over the whole thread that it is not safe (in humane is my opinion) and how much she is putting her sow at risk. And then after she has stirred everyone up with her trolling. then out of now where mom is making her go to bed. Maybe I assumed when I said that I was going to have a drink for ArtisticRainey people would know that I was agreeing with what ArtisticRainey was saying.

**CavySpirit** · #77 05-14-09, 01:00 pm

New piggie, it's kind of inappropriate to question someone's thanks or no thanks on a post. You just need to live with it. The whole point of the thanks/no thanks, is that they've chosen to indicate their pleasure or displeasure with your post without needing to comment on why. Personally, using the word "pissed" is kind of vulgar and reflects poorly on you. Maybe it was your assumption of someone else's intentions. Whatever. Do what you will with the feedback and move on.

TheCraftyFaerie · #78 05-15-09, 10:28 am

Hm. While I can understand wanting your specific pig's genes to pass on (pigs have a shorter life span than most household pets) it doesn't make breeding any better. It's still dangerous and it's still selfish regardless of the reasons you could come up with.

**Ly&Pigs** · #79 05-15-09, 10:59 am

Do you all realize that you are responding to a thread that was originally created in April of 2008 and that the Original Poster has been banned? If you haven't, maybe you should. It was dug up from the dead in January but it was better left dead.

I think this thread should now be left alone. It's not serving any useful purpose anymore.

**new piggie** · #80 05-15-09, 05:19 pm

I did not realize that (duh I should have checked). I would like to add, if I offended anyone with my post I apologize, that was not my intentions.

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