Argument

[Fay]

How are the lives of animals that can experience pain, suffering, fear be less important then us stating you the truth and thereby perhaps hurting your "feelings" well boohoo... grow up...

How would you feel if you were put together with some random guy and you couldn't get away from him and he'd "rape" you, you become pregnant with Triplets and experience extreme pains and discomfort.. just because your "mom" only loves the baby's coming from a "raped" you. Then she takes away most of the babies and gives them out to homes that neglect them, give them as food to their snakes or do the same as you do.... She obviously then doesn't care that your in pain, suffering, discomfort or could potentially die and obviously doesn't care about the wellbeeing of the babies... She obviously is only thinking about what SHE wants and what SHE likes...That would be really selfish of her wouldn't it be?

Well snap out your candy covered dream land because this is EXACTLY what you are doing to those pigs and I honestly don't care about your "feelings" when you agree to allow your pig to be "raped" and be in pain and risk their lives. I really do not care.... For me an Animals life and wellbeeing is far more important then me hurting your feelings.

You seriously need to get your priorities straigthened and grow some compassion.

[sollyrules]

THIS FORUM IS SO FLIPING RUBISH!!!!!!!!!!!

[seagirl96]

Sweetheart, I think you mean this forum is so full of flippin' rubbish. Why don't you go tell your Mom what you've done and then spend some time doing your homework? You're a little weak in spelling and grammar as well as compassion and sense.

[Fay]

She's obviously just doing this for the attention and probably laughing her butt off over there. I feel she had enough attention, Can't we just close this useless topic and ban her? Anyway I'm sure the mods will have had enough of her childish tantrums and behaviour as well. I'm personally done giving her any attention.

[sollyrules]

Hahahahaha..yes i am!! Who cares if i cant be bothered to spell properly?Personally I wouldnt waste my time being a spell checker for a child when I could be cuddling my guinea pigs and feeding them there fav celery.......Which may I add im doing now.........OOOOO!! Attention, oh yes im a little maniac tantrum thrower who wants attention..oh yes how childish...!Yippeee im throwing a tantrum!Ooo look at me!!!

oh the sarcasm...

[saturn_power]

Why don't you stop wasting people's time on here by throwing your little toddler tantrums and spend more time with your guinea pigs?
Breeding is a terrible thing to do, when I was younger and stupid I bred, and I still feel guilty a few years on, you know why? Well it's because it was bad breeding lines and two babies died of genetic problems. I absolutely HATE myself and people who breed, all my piggies now come from homes that no longer want them.
The fact you don't even know if you can keep the babies is just so irrasponsible (sorry i'm not sure how to spell that ), show your mum the piggies in the rescue instead, i'm sure they are cute aswell, infact every piggy in the world is. Wouldn't you rather give a traumatized pig a loving home rather than making more which could have serious health issues due to un-known family and DNA?

[muffin]

Solly, you still haven't given us a good reason why you are so dead set on breeding guinea pigs you can't keep. Do you really honestly think your mum will let you have more guinea pigs when you aren't even allowed one from a shelter? Try googling 'guinea pig rescue' or similar and you will see just how many piggers there are out there who desperately need love and care because they have been dumped and rescues can't cope with them all. My guinea pigs were left in a cardboard box outside an SSPCA centre on a freezing cold night when they were babies. They survived but their sister in the box did not. Most people don't think of these animals as living things, they are seen as toys for kids and usually get dumped or worse when the kid gets bored of them. If you love your guinea pigs so much I can't see how you could think making one pregnant is a good idea. Regardless of the fact that it is someone else's sow, it will still feel pain. Women scream when they give birth because it's increadibly painful, the baby is too big to get out without agonising pain. In comparison, guinea pig babies are even bigger.

Sollyrules, why oh why are you breeding? It makes no sense. If you still think you're in the right then simply tell me:

a) why you are breeding your boar
b) if you've asked your mum if you can keep some of the babies- does she even know about what you're doing? Did she say yes?
c) Why are you not allowed a guinea pig from a rescue?
d) Will the lady breeding the babies make any money out of selling them? It seems a strange situation if she isn't going to make money. It's a big risk for her..unless she doesn't care much about the sow. Are you sure she's not just using you to get the use of your boar?

If you love guinea pigs I just don't understand why you would breed babies when rescued ones need homes. Especially I don't understand why you'd breed them to be given away? Is it just so you can play with baby guinea pigs for a few weeks?

Or is the woman paying you for the loan of your boar so she can make money out of baby guinea pigs?

[Susan9608]

When it looks like a troll, walks like a troll, smells like a troll ....

Don't give trolls attention by responding to their tantrums and childish comments. Don't bother trying to reason with someone acting like a troll; it doesn't make a difference and it just prolongs the agony. Don't give a troll any invitation to continue their trollish ways.

[Percy's Mom]

And these trolls don't even have fuzzy blue and pink hair to rub!

[mommyoffive]

At least we know what breeding can do to a piggy and we accept the truth...stubborn little girls or rather trolls do not and we cant change that...pretty much all we can do is continue to "hurt her feelings" She'll learn one day...the hard way, and then she'll realize what a mistake it was.

[saturn_power]

Sollyrules: Does the owner of the sow have the genetic history, and do you have the genetic history of the boar, please answer these and the other questions asked, I don't want you to make the same mistake i did.

[saturn_power]

Originally Posted by mommyoffive

At least we know what breeding can do to a piggy and we accept the truth...stubborn little girls or rather trolls do not and we cant change that...pretty much all we can do is continue to "hurt her feelings" She'll learn one day...the hard way, and then she'll realize what a mistake it was.

I just hope she realises that guinea pig babies grow up, so they won't be ikkle fluffy babies for ever.

( Can i just say, i don't think adult pigs aren't cute, they so are!)

[mommyoffive]

Originally Posted by saturn_power

I just hope she realises that guinea pig babies grow up, so they won't be ikkle fluffy babies for ever.

( Can i just say, i don't think adult pigs aren't cute, they so are!)

I mean we cant do a groundhogs day type thing and keep them babies piggies forever! Plus dont baby pigs look like a mini version of adult pigs! hello, watch she's probably in middle school and hasnt gone though sex ed yet There's a life cycle for guineas:

baby stage
puberty stage
adult stage
senior stage

(or something like that)

you cant stay in first gear forever solly!

[saturn_power]

What gets me is that she doesn't know if she can have them or not?

oh and by the way Solly: 1+1= too many, don't breed or buy whilst animals in rescues die!

[squeak3r]

Originally Posted by sollyrules

Hahahahaha..yes i am!! Who cares if i cant be bothered to spell properly?Personally I wouldnt waste my time being a spell checker for a child when I could be cuddling my guinea pigs and feeding them there fav celery.......Which may I add im doing now.........OOOOO!! Attention, oh yes im a little maniac tantrum thrower who wants attention..oh yes how childish...!Yippeee im throwing a tantrum!Ooo look at me!!!

oh the sarcasm...

Yeah, this child needs to go. She is just egging everybody on. She obviously doesn't care to think about her actions. I just hope that she is all talk, and at least the fear of being reprimanded by her mother will make her re-think her decision.

[masher]

Originally Posted by sollyrules

THIS FORUM IS SO FLIPING RUBISH!!!!!!!!!!!

And yours is so great?!

I fail to see whats "flipin rubish" about this forum - it tries to educate stubborn people like you about why what they're doing is wrong. f you are too stubborn to listen then it will be YOU who feels the concequences.

As others have stated the hardest thing is understanind why you're doing it. The argument of you "loving" your guinea pigs babies more is clearly insane and illogical.

You said to me more it would be mean of you not to let this woman have Coco to breed from because breeding is the way she makes her money - how on earth does a 40 year old woman make enough money from selling baby guinea pigs?