Registered Breeders and rescues

[Lissa]

Now I must correct something here that Enchanting cavy has said.

Does "Garnet" ring a bell Jess?

How about all the "accidental" litters he sired at your place inside the past 10 months.

Garnet was a boar that was mistaken for a sow and he was placed in the sow aviary at Enchanting cavies.

He got a number of sows accidently pregnant.

Two litters were to a 6 and a half year old sow named Gypsy. One litter in August and then obviously a post partum mating and the result was more babies for Gypsy in October last year. Apparently Gypsy had 3 accidental litters in 1.5 years.

Then Gypsys daughter "Gypsy Princess" littered in August last year, also to Garnet.

And then there is "Little Black" sho was accidently bred and littered also in October.

Then there was another accidental litter in March this year. "Fall Kisses" to "Patrick".

And another one was due the day after the above litter.

Once again Jess mis sexed a cavy and the result was 2 more litters (very lucky he didn't get all 11 sows pregnant)

So as far as I can count, that's 6 litters in the past 10 months. Not one litter in the past year as you stated.

[Lissa]

Actually,

I'm just reading a bit more and have found that she had some pedigree litters born too.

July last year:
Pink Eyed Whites - 3 babies, one died.

Coronet - 2 babies, one died.

November last year.

Shelties - 3 babies, one died.

So I now revise that from 6 litters in the past year to 9 litters in the past year.

[enchantingcavy]

Accidents happen so shoot me those two boys I could've sworn were sows they were just very underveloped very young males and because they were put in a large sow run it was hard to see any " boy noises " happening until I caught each on the different occasion while cleaning cages they were taken out immediatly.
I actually kept the majority of those babies because i felt so bad about what had happened. I was dying for someone to bring up those litters hence why i mentioned the accidental litters in my initial post here because I KNEW someone would try and throw that one at me...see I'm not DUMB I do know the cattiness and cheek of some and I did know someone would try to throw those accidental litters to use against me...
Because it's all you have to use against me...
Think what you like it dosn't bother me anymore and what happened in the past happened in the past why dosn't someone bring up the whole 2 yrs I was in that " world " bringing up the past never gets anyone anywhere and the only reason someone would bring it up now and on here would be because they simply need to demean someone because they like hiding in denial of what they're doing in their own lives and how they feel about themselves and their own insecurities...I know where i stand now I know I'm not a bad person and since that happened no pigs are ever being put back in that run due to the risk of an accidental missexing again.

Jess

[Susan9608]

Let's try to keep the cat fighting to a minimum, shall we?

[enchantingcavy]

Bring up any sh%^ you like from " back then " again it dosn't bother me...
People on this forum can choose to focus in the " now " or can focus on the past either way I know where I stand now and that's all that matters.
It's all fun picking on someone else but why not try focusing on yourself and what you're doing with your own animals...if you think it's fine then that's great I'm not going to sit here nitpicking an individual and what they do with their guinea pigs ( unless it's in relation to the animals welfare ).

Jess

[Susan9608]

All right, *children*, let's keep this on an adult level, shall we? (sidenote: this is the last subtle warning y'all will get, comprende?)

[Gunnedah]

If you are unsure of the sex of a pig either get someone else to sex it or keep it seperate untill you know instead of seeing if it makes boy noises.

[enchantingcavy]

Yeah true...to me at the time they were definitely sows which was why i didn't ask for anyone else's opinions I could've sworn they were females but you're right if they're not adult boys and arn't well developed from now on getting a second opinion probably is a good idea and I'll do that....actually speaking of which i did that last week . With the 32 rescues we got in I had one of the volunteers double check a couple of the boys as I thought they may be sows they were fairly young boys....man I'm hopeless sometimes ahh well guess it shows the lesson was learnt as you're right i do now ask for a second opinion if unsure.

Jess

[Sabriel]

he was placed in the sow aviary at Enchanting cavies.

Do Aussie pigs fly? If not, why are they in an aviary? I think cage or enclosure is the word you are looking for.

Sorry, just couldn't get over that. When pigs fly, eh?

Carry on.

[Ly&Pigs]

instead of seeing if it makes boy noises

I have to laugh at this. Boars and sows make the same noises. There are no "girl" or "boy" noises. Both sexes will hump, rumblestrutt, etc. You definately cannot tell the sex of a pig by what kind of noises it makes.

[albert]

Jess , would be a good idea to have someone of knowledge sex the pigs as you have always had trouble sexing them even with all your years of owing and breeding them. There has been a lot miss sexed.

[Lissa]

Do Aussie pigs fly? If not, why are they in an aviary? I think cage or enclosure is the word you are looking for.

Jess has aviaries set up in her yard as runs for her sows. They may not house birds but they do house cavies. Maybe we should call them caviaries.

I'm not trying to have a go at you Jess. I'm just enlightening people on what your situation really was. ( 9 litters, not just the one you said).

What you are doing is a wonderful job. Rehoming abandoned cavies. As you know Jess I take in RSPCA cavies when they have them. I feel priveliged to have been selected by them to take on homeless cavies. They deemed my stud (yes I do breed and occasionally exhibit) to match all the criteria and more.

I have under 20 pigs. I don't mass produce. I do not sell to petshops, in fact i'm a member of the Aussie group "Say no to Animals in Petshops". I have been leafletting with them and most fellow members are aware of my status as a cavy breeder. I have a strict screening process before cavies go to their new homes. I also do not sell at shows as I don't get enough time to actually speak to people at length.

My pigs are kept in immaculate condition in the sunroom of the house. They are in large store bought cages with a mezzanine level and ramp.

They feast on organic fruit and vegetables and the highest quality grain mix and hay.

Some people are going to say that "Oh you call yourself a hero now do you because you take on homeless cavies, but you still breed, what a hypocrite". Think what you like..

I'm not about to go preaching about breeding practices or anything like that because I know that's not what people like to hear on this forum.

[Ly&Pigs]

yes I do breed and occasionally exhibit

Surely by now you have learned something on this forum about breeding and showing and how bad doing either/both are. We don't want to hear about how you breed and how you show. If you start discussing it, it will come with consequences as how-to discussions on breeding/showing aren't allowed here.

Also any rescue/shelter that adopts out pigs to breeders are just wrong or plain stupid. How is that helping the pet overpopulation problem???

[Lissa]

I'm well aware of not mentioning the breeding and showing side of things on here.

Also any rescue/shelter that adopts out pigs to breeders are just wrong or plain stupid. How is that helping the pet overpopulation problem???

The alternative for the cavies would be to have a long sleep.
The RSPCA here has been classed as the worst in the state. The facilities were built back on the 60's and the place is a little worse for wear. The bricks are crumbling. The dog and cat cages are solid bricka nd concrete. It is a very cold looking and feeling place.
There is a new shelter on the cards but who knows when that will be.
The RSPCA contacted me and asked if I could assist them with rehoming pigs. I jumped at the chance to help out. The screening process is still there. If a potential home comes up then they contact me and I invite them around to have a look and a chat about the cavies. If I feel they are going to be a loving and caring home then I contact the RSPCA and they send an inspector out to the new home to have a look at the housing situation and speak to the owners again and then they get back to me and give me a yay or nay.

[enchantingcavy]

Oh man now I better take photos of my setup so that people arn't going to assume I have guinea pigs running around on cold aviary floors oh boy....can't argue the fact that their technically called that but sure as heck isn't what they look like it on the inside or are setup....will try get some photos today but yeah visualise guinea cabins .
Liss....I wasn't trying to hide what my situation was it just isn't nessessary to bring it up now when it has nothing to do with things now...well I don't consider it relevent anyhow but atleast it's all cleared up where i stand so getting it out their probably wasn't a bad thing.

I'm not going to comment on anyone else and what they do as in my original post I've kept it very broad and don't want to aim anything at particular individuals I wanted to make it known that even though alot of Aussies on here state that the situation is entirely different in Australia...it isn't in my eyes and thats just how I view it and what I'm doing is trying to create positive changes and I won't say anymore I think I said everything in relation to the how's and what's in my first few posts.

Jess

[Sabriel]

I would call them outbuildings if you converted them. When I think of an aviary I think of something with birds (or other flying creatures) housed it in. A building where the birds are flying about the room, not a cage. Without the birds, it's kinda just a room. An aviary refers to what's in the room not the room itself.

Kinda like how a library is only a library if it has books in it. Without the books it would just be a room with a lot of shelves or maybe a study/den. If you put something else on the shelves it ceases to be a library.

[enchantingcavy]

LOL well that's one way of putting it true....Umm this isn't a very good example but it's one of the ones that have been transformed. The others are being revamped at the moment so won't post pics until they're done...e.g. rugs are being installed/curtains reinstalled not that these things are overly important but they make things look more cosy. All the aviaries are located in 90% shade although are positioned so that the pigs still get a small amount of sunlight peering through in the morning. In each their are large c&c cage setups with the corflute bases and yeah proper bedding/piggy houses and all. That's only a part of the setup here though we have the big wine barrel well that's what i call it it was made for a theatre production and that's a large sow run umm and yeah then there's compartment style hutch runs in another area which are 2m x 80cm on each level....plus 4 piggies residing in c&c cages in my bedroom sadly the whole lot can't reside in the bedroom although couldn't go without atleast a couple. Anyhow yeah here's the pigs of one of the enclosures mind you half the grid cages are new along one wall due to the recent influx of rescue piggies. The cages were only recently cleaned in this pic they usually have hay in their cages aswell.

http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/115549YXUp/890789.jpg

Two of the new rescue piggies...both pretty underweight they only had minor mange though compared to the others
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/115549YXUp/890790.jpg
I don't put many hidey houses or material in this particular enclosure as it's more a quarantine area and needs to be cleaned/sterilised easily.
http://www.pix8.net/pro/pic/115549YXUp/890791.jpg
on ebay I just won this gorgeous new pawprint multicoloured fleecy rug for the piggies wall. it's for the blank one on the righthand side.

Bleh I've just taken this post completely off topic sorry guys...
Jess