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[Jennicat]

The only hateful thing I see here is someone that would spitefully abandon their pets to prove a point to an online forum.

[jazzymom]

Originally Posted by Jennicat

The only hateful thing I see here is someone that would spitefully abandon their pets to prove a point to an online forum.

I sure did not do it for spite. I'm not some immature child. I am an adult who made a mistake. After listening to the people here, we decided GPs are not for us. Especially potentially sick ones from a petstore. We only had them a month, I am sure they will adjust to new homes, if they get adopted. By the way, the only screening the SPCA does is ensure you live in a place that accepts pets, and a few references from friends. So how does that ensure a quality home?
And I will not be supporting that store anymore. I heard a new pet supplies only store is opening here soon. And they will order in whatever you need, so I can buy the parrot pellets I get from Harrisons there.

[breezy2]

I am very sorry you felt you had to surrender them, just because of what people on a forum say. Although I don't think anyone on here said you should give them up. I know, I stated, there was no way I would ever give up my store bought guinea pig. I felt very badly for you that you had received so much grief for your decision to purchase a pet. But now I feel badly for the guinea pigs. You may be an adult, but it wasn't a very mature decision to make to turn them into a kill shelter, just because people on here said they could be sick. You could have at least taken them to the vet to see if they were healthy first.

But anyway, you made your decision and it is done with. Good luck with your birds.

[hueyeats]

Originally Posted by jazzymom

You know you are really ticking me off! How DARE you imply we would neglect them?? They had a CC cage, fresh greens and peppers, or various veggies daily. Quality pellets, Oxbow hay. Clean fresh water daily. Running room daily.
But YOU jerks convinced me that that was not enough. I am a terrible person for buying at a petstore. So I decided to give them up. I don't need sick animals. The SPCA told me they will be kept for 3 weeks, the euthanized if their employee or a customer doesn't adopt them. Happy? I'm not.
But I won't buy anymore animals from petstores. So you succeeded. Clap clap.

I keep birds, have for 20+ years. I know all about providing the VERY best for any living thing in my care.

Anyway, enjoy your hateful, nasty forum.

Hey, you know what YOU did (you do not need to push that guilt trip unto someone else).
Your latest actions would have said it all anyways, sooner or later; best that it is now.

I kept my "sickly" petstore bought GP & immediately take her to the vet as I did all my adopted ones. I would never abandon her just because she is sick... an easy decision as she is one of my children; I wouldn't have put my kids in a shelter... but such is love that you do not have for your GPs "obviously".

If you have really loved GPs so much & if they are sick, a vet would be the first priority, not a shelter & not giving them up first & foremost. GPs and not even our "mere" words here would have affected you...

Life is more precious than words you know, miss "adult".
Anyone with any commonsense would know that.
BUT, guess your GPs are cheaper than mere words!

But again your actions have spoken louder than anyone's voice here... sorry I am always blunt but always just stating a fact.

P.S. with such actions... You truly do not deserve them.That actions only proved us right!

[psmadden]

Thats terrible that you surrendered them over the forum, I have only had my GP's for about 4 months, but thats enough to know that I would never want to give them up! they are such wonderful pets and companions, its ashame

[hueyeats]

Originally Posted by jazzymom

Please explain, if no-one is breeding, how can they exist? I mean IF your dream of no-one breeding, and no petstores selling them...that's the goal right? So IF this happens?

BTW GPs do not need anyone (a humans' hand) to breed. A female & male will do what is "natural" to them without "our" help.

[jazzymom]

Bye bye, enjoy your guinea pigs, to bad you don't treat humans with as much care.

[jazzymom]

Actually, guess what. We STILL HAVE THEM. Yes, that's right. And we LOVE them. And they are healthy, and have the best we can provide. And WILL get vet care, as do our fids.

I posted that because I am very hurt. From my very first post all I got was criticism. "All boars don't get impaction." "They are just called Teddy, not teddybear." Then the petstore crap.
I started reading other intro threads. You all just wait to pounce of new people.
"Where did you get them?" "What cage are you using?" "What are you feeding?" "Your cage is not good enough."

The babies are HERE. How about just nicely helping educate, instead of insulting and setting people on the defensive first post??
My feelings are hurt, and I feel like for getting Molly at a petstore. It was thrown in my face over and over and over.
So I struck back, hoping to hurt you back. No, not mature, but I'm human.
People have feelings to, not just pigs. This is the meanest bunch of people I have EVER run into online. Thank god, I signed up myself, and didn't let my daughter be subjected to your hurtful words.

[breezy2]

Well I am glad you didn't really give them up.

[wigglesgiggles1]

I know people can be soo rude and guess what they are not their pets their are yours and you can raise them however you want. You just wanted advice not a million rotten people yelling at you.I am so happy you didnt give up your pigs.

[guineapigluver1]

Originally Posted by jazzymom

Actually, guess what. We STILL HAVE THEM. Yes, that's right. And we LOVE them. And they are healthy, and have the best we can provide. And WILL get vet care, as do our fids.

I posted that because I am very hurt. From my very first post all I got was criticism. "All boars don't get impaction." "They are just called Teddy, not teddybear." Then the petstore crap.
I started reading other intro threads. You all just wait to pounce of new people.
"Where did you get them?" "What cage are you using?" "What are you feeding?" "Your cage is not good enough."

The babies are HERE. How about just nicely helping educate, instead of insulting and setting people on the defensive first post??
My feelings are hurt, and I feel like shit for getting Molly at a petstore. It was thrown in my face over and over and over.
So I struck back, hoping to hurt you back. No, not mature, but I'm human.
People have feelings to, not just pigs. This is the meanest bunch of people I have EVER run into online. Thank god, I signed up myself, and didn't let my daughter be subjected to your hurtful words.

I'm sorry you felt hurt. When someone is asking you those questions it's to help you, not to make you feel bad. And I was telling you what I know about breeders and petstores.
I'm glad you kept your pigs.
This forum is the best you'll ever find for guinea pigs, it's a gold mine.
One thing, the other intro threads we "pounce" on (which we don't), are because they are arguing about breeders and petstores being fine.

[Jennicat]

I'm not sure why you're laying the blame on your feelings on the members of this community. You knew about rescuing. You'd already been to the forum, knew it's values, and had read about the reasons behind not buying from a pet store. Then you went and did it anyway, and decided to post about it. What did you truly think the response would be?

You're not a naive newbie who had no idea that there were pigs in rescues. Many of us were, including myself. You even took in your first pig as a private rescue! When someone knows that something is bad, and then does it anyway, how else should people respond?

The fact that you felt the need to lie about abandoning your pets to try and "teach us a lesson" is really strange. It didn't hurt anyone here -- it made you look like a crazy, unreasonable person.

[pigsforlife]

I think, if someone makes a point about something, whether it be buying from a petstore or asking what sort of cage they are kept in - the next person, and the one after that and the one after that (so on) doesn't need to re-state that. Just my opinion. Jazzmom knows what she has done is wrong, but is there anything she can do about that now? No. She has the pigs, end of story. So now the aim would be to answer any questions she has and provide helpful information so that Jazzmom can look after her pigs properly. I am not saying that I agree with everything Jazzmom has done, just that there is nothing that we can do but hope she adopts in the future, educate her as to why and answer any of her questions. I think some of the things said here, and assumptions made, I would find very hurtful too if I were in the same position.

[jazzymom]

Originally Posted by Jennicat

I'm not sure why you're laying the blame on your feelings on the members of this community. You knew about rescuing. You'd already been to the forum, knew it's values, and had read about the reasons behind not buying from a pet store. Then you went and did it anyway, and decided to post about it. What did you truly think the response would be?

You're not a naive newbie who had no idea that there were pigs in rescues. Many of us were, including myself. You even took in your first pig as a private rescue! When someone knows that something is bad, and then does it anyway, how else should people respond?

The fact that you felt the need to lie about abandoning your pets to try and "teach us a lesson" is really strange. It didn't hurt anyone here -- it made you look like a crazy, unreasonable person.

Ahh, more rudeness.
I joined a month ago, I am a newbie. And there are NO guinea pig rescues anywhere in NB, that I was able to find. We have the SPCA, go ahead, search NB SPCA and tell me how many GPs there are. NONE. I found a rat rescue, no guinea pig. When you search for GP in NB & surrounding area, closest you get are Maine & Mass. I am in CANADA.
Calling people down, belittling them is NOT nice, nor does it make the person want to stay and learn from any of you. Yes I was wrong to lie, I said so myself! But you need to feel superior by calling me names. Do you feel better.
hueyeats, you could stand to learn the fine line between blunt and belittling. I AM blunt, but I try hard to not make the person I am trying to reach out to feel like an idiot! You are rude, and insulting. And sure doesnèt make a person want to stay and learn here.
I KNOW petstores are not ideal, as I said. But that little piggie would have stayed there until it got to big to sell...then they disappear. Where do you think they go....I think they do away with them. So IMO a petstore pig ALIVE and in my care is better than a dumpster. Molly had 3 siblings...they were there on Christmas eve, yesterday they were gone..I doubt they were sold.

[Jennicat]

Most pet stores have a corporate policy prohibiting them from "disposing" of animals, and if they're throwing them in a dumpster or killing them, you're much better off contacting the local animal control than buying the animals. Are you going to buy every guinea pig that you suspect they're going to kill?

I'm sorry that you feel I'm being rude, but I'm just blown away by your whole attitude, swearing, lying. It's astounding.

[jazzymom]

Originally Posted by Jennicat

Most pet stores have a corporate policy prohibiting them from "disposing" of animals, and if they're throwing them in a dumpster or killing them, you're much better off contacting the local animal control than buying the animals. Are you going to buy every guinea pig that you suspect they're going to kill?

I'm sorry that you feel I'm being rude, but I'm just blown away by your whole attitude, swearing, lying. It's astounding.

And I am by yours. Feel powerful do you. My attitude comes from being belittled and judged by people who have no idea who I am, or how I care for my animals. And my first post told you I built a CC cage, so obviously I am not providing poor care as accused. I was accused of potential neglect, as hueyeats said, stating the SPCA would find better than me to care for them.

I hope they are not in a dumpster, but I wonder where they go. They are not at the SPCA.

And no, of course I cannot buy every GP, but I do not understand what you all think happens to them if they DO not get sold! They are living beings, deserving love. How can it be ok to just leave them there!

[breezy2]

Do you think with it being Christmas maybe someone bought them? Many people buy small animals as first pets for their young children around Christmas time.

[Jennicat]

Can you point to one single instance where I said that you gave poor care to your animals? I'm sure you're providing great care. (Bizarre lies aside). You're right. I have no idea "who you are". It's really inconsequential to me. I don't care if you're poor or rich, what hardships you go through, etc. I still think it's a bad idea to buy an animal from a pet store and fund cruelty and mill breeding.

I'm sorry that you're more caught up in how you perceive people on the messageboard to be treating you than on the actual issue.

[jazzymom]

Originally Posted by breezy2

Do you think with it being Christmas maybe someone bought them? Many people buy small animals as first pets for their young children around Christmas time.

I doubt it. There were also 5 abbys there on Christmas eve. They are gone too. New litter of skinny pigs though in the same cage Molly had been in. I was there at closing Christmas eve, buying seed. And they only reopened Saturday(closed here Dec 26) closed Sunday, and I was there yesterday. Doubt they sold 7 GPs in 2 days.

Unfortunately we have no other petstores here, to compare. At first glance this store looks ok. But now I wonder...where did they go!

For the record, I have never bought a bird at a petstore, because where most animal care is substandard, bird care is even worse at petstores, and avian illnesses are hard to detect and cure. And one common avian disease, often in petstore birds is transmittable to humans, and can be very bad. I use a breeder, A good one, same one for 20 years. Rescue with parrots is NOT for everyone. Rescue parrots often come with issues, behavioral problems, aggression, and not everyone can deal with that. I cannot.

[guineapigluver1]

By buying there, you just supported them. You say what you just did about birds and petstores, and yet you just supported that by buying from them. I for one would rather not have any then support animal suffering.