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    Re: Mites and Spray

    I mix the horse paste with water. Then,how do I get my pigs to eat it.
    After mixing you draw the proper dosage based on weight into a needless syringe and squirt it in the backs of their mouth.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    POur pigs are way to squirmish to inject with ivermectin so Horse paste is our last resort.
    Just to make sure this is clear noone wants you to try injecting ivermectin yourself. A vet may do an injection but even then it's not really necessary unless your pigs are very bad off. You use the clear injectible liquid topically. Topically means on the outside of the pig. It also doesn't need to be diluted so it's really easy to draw a bit out with a syringe and needle, remove the needle, and put the dosage behind the guinea pigs ears. Much simpler especially when you have to do 9 pigs like me.
    The horse paste will work though and it's not that hard to get that tiny amount of medicine into their mouths. Get the smallest syringe you can find since that would make it easier. A 1cc or 3cc syringe will work but 10cc livestock syringes will be a bit difficult since they don't fit in a guinea pig's mouth. 3cc is the smallest I can find without getting some from a vet.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Nothing at Petsmart or any pet store is acceptable to treat parasites except maybe Advantage or Revolution. I wouldn't listen to anything a pet store employee tells you.

    Mites have to have a host to survive. Spraying the cage with toxins doesn't do anything to mite eggs that are already dead.

    from GL: With no host, they will usually die within 3 weeks. However the eggs, which are laid in burrows in the skin, may survive independently for long periods of time.

    You need to treat the g pig to kill the mites.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Oh ok, I sort of skimmed throught he last posts, I think that we've found a solution if you c ould chekc the prices threrad and answer my question on there that would be REALLLY helpfull, thanks for all the support.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Safe Gaurd? <My friend has it and i'm wonderng if it would be ok?

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Is it a spray? If it is then no. We have said many times that you can safely use only ivermectin or revolution. Nothing else!

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Safe guard is a horse paste. However you'd have to check the label or I would have to go check it and get back to you to be certain on the active ingredient. I think it's a fenbendazole paste and not safe for guinea pigs. Ideal for foals and foaling mares but not what your looking for when it comes to guinea pigs. If you use horse paste it has to say only ivermectin in the active ingredients.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    I learned something new today. Thanks aqh!!

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    So...no safe gaurd...well, i really need some help guys..... :worried: The scratchign has become less frequent, but Moe still keep s doing this jumpy, thing like they are biting him, so i'm still on the lookoutn for ivvermectin.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Quote Originally Posted by pink_cottonball
    So...no safe gaurd...well, i really need some help guys..... :worried: The scratchign has become less frequent, but Moe still keep s doing this jumpy, thing like they are biting him, so i'm still on the lookoutn for ivvermectin.
    The "jumpy thing"...are you sure this is not just popcorning? Pigs do this when they are happy. They run around the cage, jump in the air, and twitch.

    You can get Ivermectin from a feed store, farm supply store, or horse store. Ask your friend where she gets her Safe Guard. They should have ivermectin as well.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    When Moe does the jumpy thing, does it look like he's having a seizure or looks like a bucking bronco?

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    i don't think it';s a siezure, he doesn't wheek, and he just does it for no reason, it'[s likes he's doing the worm, first lgs in the air then his front paws.....more like a bucking bronco, he'll run then do thism, then run then do it again, he doesn't flip it's weird....

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    That sounds like popcorning to me.

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    Yep, it's popcorning and it means he's a very happy little guy. Pink, I also have to ask you to work on your posting habits. It's going rapidly downhill. This is also a warning to stop using ... in every post you make. Using a simple period/full stop at the end of your sentence is sufficient.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Sorry Ly, just a habit,which will stop. Well, we think we're going to buy horse paste. Thanks for your help. (SUPER SORRY LY!!! My sincere apologies, just wait and see how perfect I'm going to be )

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Just so long as you are sure you get an Ivermectin paste wormer. Safeguard which you have mentioned several times, is *not* Ivermectin, there are several brands that aren't. Horses are subject to lots of different worms and get wormed several times a year (depending on owner preference monthly or bimonthly), and worms become resistent to chemicals, so horse people rotate wormers every time.

    Whatever place you found the Safeguard at should have other brands, including an Ivermectin brand. Safeguard is about the cheapest wormer you can buy (believe it comes in a box with green apples on it), but it won't work for guineas as others have mentioned.

    Sarah


    Quote Originally Posted by pink_cottonball
    Sorry Ly, just a habit,which will stop. Well, we think we're going to buy horse paste. Thanks for your help. (SUPER SORRY LY!!! My sincere apologies, just wait and see how perfect I'm going to be )

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    Well howdy doo da day! Thanks for that. It has to be 1% ivermectin right? Can it be over?

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    I can't be positive, but I believe that the bottle of liquid is the 1% and that paste percentages are a good bit stronger (like 2.5%, which doesn't *sound* like much unless you were a chemistry major and then you understand what a huge difference it is), which is why they need to be diluted.

    Since this is something you are going to be squirting in your piggies mouth instead of merely dripping behind the ears like with the liquid, you need an adult who is good with math and measurements to help you do this and be absolutely sure that they use the right forumula, which I am sure someone here will point you to.

    Ivermectin in doses too strong for the animal can kill.

    Sarah

    Quote Originally Posted by pink_cottonball
    Well howdy doo da day! Thanks for that. It has to be 1% ivermectin right? Can it be over?

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    All right. Thanks skirbo. I'll get my mom to help me and will be careful not to overdose.

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    Re: Mites and Spray

    The worms don't become resistent but there are lots of different worms which don't all respond to the same chemicals. In latest research the best way to worm a horse is to use the same type of wormer every month or every other month for a whole year and then switch the next year. That way you wipe out almost all the worms that are sensitive to that product not only in your horses but your pasture as well. By the time you go through all the different wormer ingredients the first parasites will start coming back. A daily pellet wormer used at the same time or even by itself has been found to not only eliminate parasites but help repair damage they've done. The only negative fecal tests for parasites that my vet has reported were when a horse was fed daily strongid c dewormer pellets.

    There are 5 main dewormer ingredients so you do have to check. The proper paste will contain 1.87% ivermectin. Some brands of those wormers are Zimectrin(plain not zimectrin gold or plus), Rotectin 1 or Rotectin 1.87%(not Rotectin 2 or P), and Equimectrin. I believe Ivercare and Horse Health Ivermectin will work as well but I don't have a package in front of me saying the ingredient percents of those 2.

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