Question about Revolution

**Marlania** · #1 10-05-05, 01:55 am

I read on another post that a vet gave Revolution to treat for parasites. I've known folks to use Advantage for that, and I've known vets to give Revolution to take care of ear mites. My concern about Revolution is that it enters the blood stream, which is how it acts as a heartworm preventative. Are there any adverse affects with a pig's body absorbing something that treats for so many things? I know many dog and cat owners who don't use Revolution for that reason, so I'm wondering how even a small dosage would affect a pig.

**smoot** · #2 10-05-05, 07:20 am

I don't know what else is in Revolution, but for mites and lice you can apply ivermectin (brand name Ivomec) topically. It's generally cheaper and you don't need a prescription in most places. I'm new at this so you should check out the detailed info at http://www.guinealynx.info/ivermectin.html.

**C&K** · #3 10-05-05, 08:11 am

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Originally Posted by smoot

I don't know what else is in Revolution, but for mites and lice you can apply ivermectin (brand name Ivomec) topically. It's generally cheaper and you don't need a prescription in most places. I'm new at this so you should check out the detailed info at http://www.guinealynx.info/ivermectin.html.

Correct me if I am wrong, but don't both Advantage and Ivermectin get absorbed into the bloodstream, even if dosed topically, particularly Advantage?

That is why dosing at a higher does can be fatal even if topical.

Revolution is the new wonderdrug on the market, many have had very good results, Selamectin, and the company that makes it even has a Guinea Pig recommendation... Although it makes me a little sick because it takes no streach of the imagination to figure out how they came up with that.

Also, Ivermectin may not be as effective on lice.

**Sabriel** · #4 10-05-05, 10:29 am

All mite treatments enter the bloodstream. That's why dust and sprays don't work. You need to hit the blood stream to kill parasites that eat blood.

Most cat and dog owners who won't use Revolution use flea collars and spray instead, often with fatal results.

Tomoyo was treated with Revolution at 2 months old. She's about a year old now and nothing is wrong with her.

**Marlania** · #5 10-05-05, 11:11 am

[/quote]Most cat and dog owners who won't use Revolution use flea collars and spray instead, often with fatal results. [quote]

Not necessarily. Many who will not use Revolution will use Advantage and Frontline. I can't think of many folks who are seriously into their dog's (or cat's) well-being who use flea collars, or worse, products like Hartz' flea drops or pills...if they even make those anymore.

Thanks for your replies. I'm still not a big Revolution fan, but I'll keep it in mind should anything ever happen with my pigs in the future. It did clear up the ear mites in my newest kitten much better than traditional mite treatments. I'm just not a fan of giving my animals too many chemicals.

**Sabriel** · #6 10-05-05, 11:33 am

Advantage and Ivermetcin are just as much a chemical as Revolution is. At the very least Revolutuion was somewhat forumlated with cavies in mind, Ivermetcin and Advantage are not.

If you don't like the thought of cheimcals you should look into holistic treatments, not just taking one chemical cocktail over another.

**Marlania** · #7 10-05-05, 11:42 am

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Originally Posted by Sabriel

If you don't like the thought of cheimcals you should look into holistic treatments, not just taking one chemical cocktail over another.

I don't use any flea/tick/mite product, actually. Fleas are hard to come by when you have professional couch potatoes for pets.

**Sabriel** · #8 10-05-05, 11:59 am

Yes, but your pigs could have mites from before you had them. I dose all new pigs with ivermetcin now that I have some. It can be hard to come by in the city. A friend gave me a whole bunch!

I have heard that tea tree oil works well for parasites, but I have never looked into it. I use a weak solution with tea tree oil in it for itching.

**C&K** · #9 10-05-05, 12:08 pm

I think that one thing that needs to be addressed is that when it comes to mange mites in particular, you just can't fool around with them, does not matter if it is a dog or a pig, they can be deadly, therefore any risk from the meds that have been used with an extreamly low risk for many years is definately worth it. Advantage and Ivermectin are two of the safest meds one can give to a pig, if it stops a life of discomfort, in my opinion it is worth the very very limited risk. Powders and dusts which don't enter the bloodstream are known to cause resperatory problems and can end up being toxic in their own ways.

**Marlania** · #10 10-05-05, 03:47 pm

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Originally Posted by Sabriel

Yes, but your pigs could have mites from before you had them.

My pigs have been here for quite some time. I've had my girls for almost four years. I don't think I'll be adding to the crew anytime soon because either myself or Brett would have to live on the roof. I'm running out of room.

**Funnygpigs** · #11 10-05-05, 03:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Sabriel

Most cat and dog owners who won't use Revolution use flea collars and spray instead, often with fatal results. .

I had a vet tell me one time, that using the flea stuff they sell at petstores/super markets (Hartz, and other brands) Are like giving your animal poision. It does not really work, and it just poisions your animal.

Also, My sister had a co-worker who said that over the counter flea med gave her dog seziures. Of course, I am not sure I believe this coming from third hand. Also, who knows how much she gave the dog?

Well, I will never use cheap flea stuff!

**LBKK** · #12 10-05-05, 04:27 pm

Ha ha I have a kid so I can tell you all about Tea Tree oil!!! It is supposed to be a great herbal method for preventing lice. I live by it as head lice is so easy for kids to catch at school etc. Apparently, the smell repells lice and the fact that it is an oil makes it harder for them to attach themselves to the hair shaft. When I wash my daughter's hair, I put the shampoo into the palm of my hand, drop in 2 drops of Tea Tree oil and mix it up and then wash her hair. So far, we've had great results with it. No head lice whatsoever since we started using it - even after a breakout of it in the daycare. As for using it for a treatment of lice, I dont believe it is effective.....nor do I know if it is a safe product to use on your piggies. As for kids though - its great!! Hope this helps!

**smoot** · #13 10-05-05, 09:26 pm

When I suggested ivermectin, it was because it's cheaper than Revolution and easier to get, not because it was less toxic or less dangerous. All medicines are potentially dangerous if not administered correctly. Sorry for any confusion.

**aqh88** · #14 10-05-05, 11:43 pm

Tea tree oil is as toxic as any chemical when swallowed. Don't think it's any safer just because it's natural instead of a manmade chemical mixture. However it does work great on pests, minor skin infections and irritations, and fungus. We use it all the time on horses partly because we can't find a good alternative but treat it the same as any other medication and don't use it when it's not necessary. It's considered a toxic substance.

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