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Old 04-12-09, 09:46 pm
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Re: White House abuzz as first dog finally arrives

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We as human beings make the conscious desicion to bring children into the world.
Well, sometimes.
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Animals are different in the fact that when the copulate, they did not go through the thought process of what it would mean to have babies.
Sure. It's also for sure that many humans copulate without going through the thought process of what it would mean to have babies!
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Animals are driven by instinct, not sentiment.
I'm certainly not seeing "sentiment" as being a better reason for bringing additional lives into the world when there are many who go without - do you see that as a better reason? And again, many children were conceived without "sentiment" being a factor.
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Humans are putting/forcing animals into controlled situations in which they are breeding, thus contributing to the millions of healthy adoptable animals being killed in shelters.
Mmm, partly. Many, many animals are reproducing precisely because they are in uncontrolled situations in which they are breeding, thus contributing to the millions of healthy adoptable animals being killed in shelters. Why should people who deliberately breed dogs be considered responsible for shelter animals, if they make sure the pups they breed go to responsible homes with "return" contracts and strict spay/neuter requirements? The argument presumes that everyone who would get a dog from a breeder would go to a shelter for a dog if the breeder didn't exist, when many people would just not get any dog at all.
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It is our responsibility to look after our animals, we are the ones breeding and killing innocent animals. It is not the fault of the animals being bred, but the fault of the people responsible for breeding them. It is impossible for the animals to know any better.
Agreed that it's our responsibility, but I don't see how lack of "fault" of animals has anything to do with it. If you say that there's no possibility of responsible breeding for animals as long as there are animals which die due to lack of care, I don't see how you can say humans should reproduce as long as there are human children who die due to lack of care.
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