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Originally Posted by Alusdra Just a quick comment on people in developing countries and not having children- I feel that was a particularly insensitive comment. |
I can't dispute this, but keep in mind that my simplified stance on human reproduction (applying the abolitionist approach to humans as well as domesticated non-humans) is very likely to be considered insensitive to many people. I don't care, and I make no apologies for my stance.
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Originally Posted by Alusdra If the women had access to and knowledge about contraceptives, would the birth rate in those places be lower? Undoubtedly. If the health care was such that they wouldn't have to see their children waste away and die from diarrhea would they have fewer? Definitely. And that's assuming that the children still have parents, or that it was by choice that the mother got pregnant, that she isn't dead from the AIDs the man who raped her gave her. |
There are certain groups in more highly developed countries who travel to the most AIDS-ridden areas of the world and tell people not to use condoms because of religious and/or political views. These groups pose a much greater problem than people who are simply insensitive.
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Originally Posted by Alusdra That kind of thing is what happens in an anarchist type environment and is why I personally am very for government. It's never going to be perfect, but having ground rules means that we have the luxury of tweaking the system instead of literally fighting for our lives. Would someone be making vegan soap (for example) if at any moment they could be killed and written off as collateral damage? No way. Once you take out the need to work to survive then philosophical and moral questions can be explored, along with other cultural curiosities like art, science, music, etc. |
The reason anarchy and lawlessness result in chaos is because human beings are fatally flawed and have not evolved to a point where they can control and overcome their natural selfish instincts in the interests of justice. I don't believe humans, in their current form, without the aid of a massive collective awakening of spiritual consciousness, will ever be capable of achieving that goal, and therefore, I believe in the abolition of the human race.
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Originally Posted by Susan9608 I don't necessarily see the two situations as identical, at least not from a global standpoint. |
As one can probably conclude by reading my posts in the linked thread, I see the two situations as EXACTLY the same.